I’ve always looked at the new year as a clean slate. While I don’t go out of my way to make or keep resolutions, I generally have a sense of refreshment when I wake up on the first. It’s a time for reflection, and a time for change. I would hope that we were all going into the new year as mature adults, ready to move into the coming months with a renewed sense of purpose.
I was wrong.
Some of us still want to play games. That’s fine with me. I’ve sat here quietly for a while, trying to stay as far away from certain drama as I possibly can. But I have reached the breaking point.
There was a thread recently detailing how John had slept with me when I was 16. I posted a private blog so that the people I cared about would get the straight facts and not some convoluted crap that came from “gossip sites†frequented by a certain web mistress.
The ordeal went on in the comments section of a site where the same web mistress implored me to email her and straighten her facts out, and then wished me a happy birthday. So I emailed her and thought that might finally put to rest the ridiculousness.
Wrong again.
Today I see this :
“there are certain pedophiles people obsessed with women in their late teens and early twenties that put me off from going into too much detail. Sorry, but I value privacy and unthreatened employment.â€
I’m no dummy, I’m well aware that this is directed at John and myself. So I feel that I have to address this, because it’s getting to be too much.
A few things:
1. Jenn, you keep implying that it was John that called your work. In fact, I know that you pointed the finger at all of us you don’t like for doing it. You’re right. Ranee, Laura, Krissy, Christie, Miranda, John, and myself all got together and called Target to get you fired. We followed it up with a ginormous circle jerk in your honor.
You produce some proof of it being John. I dare you. Why do I dare you? Because I know 100% for a fact that it wasn’t any of us. So keep throwing around accusations you have no basis for, I can always use the laugh.
2. Okay kids, it’s learning time, get out your dictionaries, we’re going to define “Pedophile†and then use it in a sentence.
A.“Pedophilia is a preference for sexual activity with young children. In Western societies, pedophilia is defined as sexual fantasy about or sexual relations with a child younger than 13 by a person 16 or older. Some pedophiles are attracted only to children, often of a specific age range or developmental stage, whereas others are attracted to both children and adults.†(CITE)
There’s one, let’s try another
B.â€A pedophile is a person who over at least a 6 month period has recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (age 13 years or younger). “ (CITE)
For those not in the know, I was 16 when I slept with John. Not “13 years or youngerâ€. That alone makes our relationship non pedophilic For another thing, he has no “preference for sexual activity with young childrenâ€. We had sex. It happened. I was days away from being “legalâ€. Get over it.
If it had happened in Pennsylvania (where Jenn lives) it would have been perfectly legal. In fact, it would have been perfectly legal in SEVENTY FIVE percent of the US.
John is not a pedophile. However, I find it highly suspect that you were investigated for molesting your “13 years or younger†brother, especially since you are a “person 16 or olderâ€. It would also explain why you deflect so much.
The bottom line, Jenn dear? I’m sick of your shit. If you’re going to say things and make medical diagnoses (Pedophila is a medical condition), try doing some homework . You might even consider finishing school, as your ignorance is less than becoming on you.
Have a great year Jenn, enjoy your job (anyone else think “phone sex operator�), your husband (you’ll get knocked up again in time to trap him, no worries, or hey you’ll just lie about him molesting your kids, whatever works, right?), and by this time next year you’ll still be a vapid, ignorant, self important, bottom-feeding breeder.
I don’t really know what to say except that I am sorry you have to go through this. What ever happened between you and John is between you two and not to be talked about by anyone else.
I do agree with you about the new year though. It is sort of like a clean slate. Too bad things never work out the way you like. -sigh
By the way I like the new look.
Have a great New Year! :)
Wow. I hope it felt good to get it all out! I read her blog entry and my mind automatically went uh oh she’s talking about John. I guess it was because of the whole convo last week. I thought this all blew over and all parties were civil and I’m wondering why it got started again. Geesh! Happy New Year!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jennifer is so disgusting. I think that her problem is that she’s just obsessed with you. Why else would she stir up crap when you’ve been quiet and leaving her alone? She likes pushing buttons and getting attention. That’s why she even told people that she was being investigated for molesting her brother. Who the hell even mentions stuff like that in their blog? Would you want the world to know you were so low? Ugh. The situation with you and John hardly compares! You’re not related, you were both consenting, and you’re in a relationship. You were weeks away from being legal in your state and it was legal in most of the US. It’s not ‘ok’ anywhere to molest your brother for Gods sake.
Anyway she’s a moron. You rock and I love you :) Tis what matters, really. Happy New Year love.
Guilty much? ;)
P.S. (as I accidentally hit tab and then enter) Whether you believe it or not, what I said in my blog had nothing to do with you - or John.
While I think you’re both a waste of space, I’ve moved on (as said on Christmas Eve at Ranee’s site) as I’ve come to realize that neither you, your precious hubby, or your precious friends are worth the effort it takes to type crap about you at a keyboard.
I won’t go into detail to mention WHO it was, but rest assured, it wasn’t directed to you or John - it was to a cute little e-mail stalker I’ve had hanging around for several years now.
P.S. Phone sex operator? How flattering… but no. And, I was kind enough not to reveal your e-mail to the entire public (as, let’s face it, regardless of the fact that people know it or not, I’m sure you wouldn’t want it being broadcasted), so I’ll ask that you do the same, and kindly refrain from bashing me over shit that isn’t true. Ya see…
1) I wasn’t fired from Target. That’s a ridiculous claim, seeing as how I was promoted before I put in my two weeks notice (a shame, since the promoiton and raise went to waste).
2) What went on with my brother and I wasn’t anything like the disgusting twist you’re putting on it - he told his therapist that I bathed him, which was true. You have a brother who is much younger than you - tell me you did not bathe him at one point or another in his life time.
3) Getting knocked up to trap my husband? Cute, but wrong again - we were together for about four years before I became pregnant. And you’re one to talk - you too were knocked up, accidentally I’m assuming.
Anyway, that is all. Like I said before, I’m done wasting my time with bashing you and the others - isn’t it time you did the same?
P.S. It’s nice to know that you lurk. ;)
I hope that anyone that hasn’t been associated with this mess didn’t automatically assume you were talking about John, like I did. But I was associated with this mess and it did sound like the crap that went on. I’m happy to know you have a stalker, umm I mean I’m happy it’s not John or something like that.
We all need to stop diagnosing eachother, I’m guilty of it, I’ll admit it. I could hand out some more but I’m trying to stick to resolutions and not break them before midnight!
1. As I didn’t link your site, you must lurk too.
2. I don’t know, or care, if you got fired from Target.
3.You contradict yourself when you say we’re not worth typing at a
keyboard, since you just, you know, did.
4.Broadcast my email all you want. It’s nothing I didn’t tell most
people anyway. Dur.
5.Keep saying you didn’t get knocked up to trap him, maybe you’ll
believe it one day. IT’s cute how you don’t deny threatening to lie
about him molesting your kids. Yeah, you rock!
6. No, I never bathed my brother, sorry, I don’t swing that way ;)
7. I have no problem with people getting pregnant. I don’t know where
you got that.
8. You didn’t have to comment, but you did. So really, cut it out if
you want it to stop.
And maybe you misunderstood, I said “called to get you fired” not that you were actually fired
EDIT: and here’s the email I sent, you. You know, the oh so SCANDELOUS one :
”
John and I met in 02. We were friends for ages, and the 5 weeks before I was of age (17 in NY) we slept together. A jealous, vicious cunt of a friend of mine, went to the school and then the cops because I was “in danger”. Her motivation was really that she was scorned he wouldn’t touch her.
I’m the only girl he slept with under age, or had a relationship. He did do time, and I had to fight for well over a year and a half to keep my family together. And had I waited 5 weeks, or had we lived in 75% of the rest of the country (PA for instance) it would have been perfectly legal.”
If we’re not worth it, why do you lurk? You say it’s not worth it and yet you still type out a long comment about it not being worth it. Hmmmmm. I think you just like seeing your name up on peoples sites. If you didn’t, and none of this mattered to you, you’d laugh it off and refrain from commenting. Say you’ve moved on - you’re proving you’ve not by replying.
IF you do have an email stalker, it’s nice to know you think it’s cute.
Miranda on December 31, 2005 at 11:13 pm said:
If we’re not worth it, why do you lurk? You say it’s not worth it and yet you still type out a long comment about it not being worth it. Hmmmmm. I think you just like seeing your name up on peoples sites. If you didn’t, and none of this mattered to you, you’d laugh it off and refrain from commenting. Say you’ve moved on - you’re proving you’ve not by replying.
IF you do have an email stalker, it’s nice to know you think it’s cute.
Especially considering if anyone else made light of it it would be “OMG HOW CALLOUS! I”M BEING STALKED!”
Heather on December 31, 2005 at 11:14 pm said:
Especially considering if anyone else made light of it it would be “OMG HOW CALLOUS! I”M BEING STALKED!”
Exactly haha This is the first I’ve heard of it too. It seems like, as much as she likes drama, she’d have mentioned more about it too. Or did I just totally miss that?
It’s sad to enjoy attention that much, ya know… when you think a stalker is cute haha
Jenn can go too far at times. I read The Dead End a lot, and I know that you guys (John and yourself) do not “bash” her unless she has said something offensive in the first place. She keeps saying she doesn’t want to start things, yet she goes back, mentions things about how people want to stalk her, etc. Personally she needs to stop saying that shes being vauge about her work on purpose. We get it. Shut up about it already we could care less where you work, don’t flatter yourself. I have honestly considered that she keeps getting pregnant to trap her husband, I don’t know how anyone can deal with her, and I pity her daughter, because soon enough she will be online and see what her mother is really like.
Calling John a pedophile? Now that is going to far…way to far. Although you were young, you were not a child (in a mental sense, I assume). And if Jenn was being investigated, it had to be something farther than giving her brother a bath, her brother obviously said something more than “My sister gives me bathes”.
oh lord……… im staying out of this :P
happy new year anyway H ((hugs))
“I’m being stalked.” Sure you are. I guess you’re talking about a different “John” in your thread, you bloated manatee.
John on January 1, 2006 at 1:47 am said:
“I’m being stalked.” Sure you are. I guess you’re talking about a different “John” in your thread, you bloated manatee.
lmfao. You never cease to make me laugh. .
lmfao……i’m not lurking, but posting because this shit is funny. I’ve known John online for about 4 years now and he’s always been a gentleman. It’s pretty crappy if Jenn accused him of being a pedophile. I personally think that jenn loves the drama. honestly who gives a shit if who slept with who when they were 16???
happy 2006 to heather, john and da monkey!!!
Jenn on December 31, 2005 at 11:00 pm said:
P.S. (as I accidentally hit tab and then enter) Whether you believe it or not, what I said in my blog had nothing to do with you - or John.
While I think you’re both a waste of space, I’ve moved on (as said on Christmas Eve at Ranee’s site) as I’ve come to realize that neither you, your precious hubby, or your precious friends are worth the effort it takes to type crap about you at a keyboard.
I won’t go into detail to mention WHO it was, but rest assured, it wasn’t directed to you or John - it was to a cute little e-mail stalker I’ve had hanging around for several years now.P.S. Phone sex operator? How flattering… but no. And, I was kind enough not to reveal your e-mail to the entire public (as, let’s face it, regardless of the fact that people know it or not, I’m sure you wouldn’t want it being broadcasted), so I’ll ask that you do the same, and kindly refrain from bashing me over shit that isn’t true. Ya see…
1) I wasn’t fired from Target. That’s a ridiculous claim, seeing as how I was promoted before I put in my two weeks notice (a shame, since the promoiton and raise went to waste).
2) What went on with my brother and I wasn’t anything like the disgusting twist you’re putting on it - he told his therapist that I bathed him, which was true. You have a brother who is much younger than you - tell me you did not bathe him at one point or another in his life time.
3) Getting knocked up to trap my husband? Cute, but wrong again - we were together for about four years before I became pregnant. And you’re one to talk - you too were knocked up, accidentally I’m assuming.Anyway, that is all. Like I said before, I’m done wasting my time with bashing you and the others - isn’t it time you did the same?
P.S. It’s nice to know that you lurk. ;)
she thinks you are a waste of space and not worth the effort but yet she comes here and comments(can anyone say stalker?)
someone stalking your fat ass? wow talk about delusions of grandeur.
yea heather she was promoted from floor cleaner to cart attendant didn’t you know that!!!
im sure you did more than Bathe him if CPS got involved. Your need to be shot like all the rest of the kid touchers out there.
I’m sorry but if Heathers friend was out to get revenge because John wanted nothing to do with her it wasn’t gonna matter if she was legal or not. It seems like the girl would have probably stopped at nothing to get revenge and lied all along the way. So really to me the whole point about the age of Heather at the time is irrelevant. How many times has a girl that is about to become of age had this exact thing happen to her and even if she says I’m willing I love him some twat is jealous and the authorities run with it? So the entire age thing is just absolutely null and not worth even throwing in anyone’s faces.
Secondly, for John to be a true pedophile that Jenn is talking about in her blog, she’d have to be much younger, and he’d have to be coming on to her in some way, shape, or form.
I also have to add this. The law is the same all over the country for cps. Yet as you will many times be told the law is interpreted differently from state to state and to accomodate the state and situation. BUT in Indiana where I am at, you need to have 3 calls against you, or 3 accusations for them to actually come out and investigate.
So if one person says she/he did this they will take it down and maybe contact the person, when the 2nd and 3rd roll in you are looking at an investigation.
I don’t have a clue how far that investigation went that is being talked about, but I’m going to do my fare share of speculating and guess that he not only made that comment about his sister but was making other comments as well at the same time.
Sadly, some kids do have multiple things like that going on with their sister abusing them as well as the mother and father and the family is just messed up, and a social worker can make the assumption that the kid is just throwing accusations out there.
Bottom line? The situation should have never been posted about.
Hmmm I’m just baffled at how someone can talk so nonchalantly about someone else’s love life. What happened between you and John is between you guys and needn’t be explained to ANYBODY else. And ohh though I’m not involved in any of this drama (nor would I want to), she has this way of really annoying even the sanest of us.
*sigh* I’m truly sorry you had to end the year on such a sour note because of this mess, Heather. Hopefully, though, you didn’t give it another thought, as she’s obviously not worth anyone’s time. Keep your chin up, girl, and remember that, unlike some people (not wanting to point fingers at this point), at least you have someone who makes you laugh, holds you at night, and whispers I love you back. *HUG*
Wow…just one thing: last time I checked, “moving on” wasn’t “oh, I’ll just go and make a thread bashing her and then I’ll go to her site and post comments talking about how I’m sooo over it.”
Maybe I’m just an ignorant teenager but at least when I say I’m moving on, I distance myself from the person or persons or situation completely. Even if they were to post or write about me I would just ignore it, that’s if I was smart and took the higher ground. But no, some people can’t seem to do that. Some people have nothing better to do than to waste their lives away on the internet trying to make themselves feel important because their real lives do nothing for them.
Le sigh. Anyway, That’s not the point. The point is, Heather, I like the new look and I wanted to wish you a Happy New Year for you and your family.
Wow. Some people have nerve. And lack a life. Who cares who you slept with and when? As far as I’m concerned, that’s your business and no one elses.
Sad. Some people are just sad.